Nedis is driven by Tuya a VERY large chinese vendor of IOT´s. They are so big that they are a defacto standard today, but still open for change as being members of the organization that drives the Matter-standard.
First one of my three cameras of this type was losing its “motion detection alarm”-setting of “ON” to “OFF” about every two days. It lost its “Surveillance Area setting” at the same time as well.
The other day I noticed a new firmware through an update. This Firmware is v5.2.1. Now the problem with losing the “Motion detection Alarm”-setting seems to have gone. But…at the same time I notice two things:
First the “Onvif” setting – the function meant to able You to read the camera directly without the Nedis-app seems to have been activated? At least You get the cameras IP-adress now. I am experimenting with various Video SW to figure out how it can be best used.
Secondly my other two cameras of the same Nedis-articlenumber and looks, did NOT update their firmware to v5.2.1, but to v2.10.6!!? And their “Surveillance Area setting” is not possible to set anymore? Also the newer firmwares function screeen says “Third party supported Amazon Echo” which the older does not. Both verions has settings for Onvif however. I will make a support ticket with Nedis to try to figure out these questions and be back with info ASAP.
As of yesterday, I noticed a new look of the Nedis-app. I have no idea what changes and news that it includes. I will investigate and get back ASAP.
Also there is some updates on some camera firmware, mostly opening up for Onvif-use. I will be back with examples on how to activate this and use it for connecting to the cameras outside of the Nedis-apps constraints.
I have realized that Nedis is buying almost all of their IOT´s and the SmartLife-app from the Tuya company.
Despite being their biggest customer, the userbase can be made wider, by including ALL users of Tuyas all IOT`s (thousands!).
Nedis does not carry all of Tuya´s products, not even all of their product lines of IOT´s
Nedisusersblog will continue for now, but the energy will focus on updating Tuyausersblog from now and on. I have copied all the material, posts, likes and data as of late december 2021. Rearranged the structure to open it for other companies and their product brands. You are invited to check it out!
After the last blogpost on Nedis and Tuya, its perhaps time to investigate what other IOT´s that can be used together with Nedis IOT´s in the Smart Living-app.
This app is an OEM-product from Tuya, and app that both is available as Tuyas own brand, as well as with other brands. My Qlima heatpump/AC uses a branded variant of Tuyas app.
But Tuya also makes hundreds of IOT´s applicationhardware like sensors, cameras and switches.
Some of them, but not all, even works directly with the Nedis Smart Living app.
I will here give You an example of a WiFi connected IOT that Nedis has no eqvivalent of and that some of You might have use for. Its a temperature and humidity sensor branded Bekeey as an OEM-product from Tyua.
Bekeey sensor compatible with Smart Life app
As You can see it has both the Nedis Smart Life and Tuya Smart app logos. I have three of those and they work fine in the Smart Life app.
So until the Matter standard of IOT´s will get widely accepted, the Tuya standard might be helpful to have a wider list of IOT´s than just Nedis-branded to choose from.
I recently understood that Nedis is an IoT (InternetofThings) OEM-label. (OriginalEquipmentManufacturer – meaning that Nedis buys other manufacturers products putting their own label on them).
Most Nedis IOT´s is products from Tuya, who supplies Nedis with many, if not all of their Smart Home products, as well as the Smart Living-app.
As Tuya sells this OEM-concept of hardware and app, to many other labels, it means that Nedis IoT´s and some other OEM-products could be compatible, even before standards as the Matter-standard. It all has to do with HOW the various labels implement the API´s they get from Tuya. Most labels wants their own look and sometimes their own special functions to stand out from their competition, sometimes this makes their products not compatible with other labels. Whereas some of these products work just fine together, it is not guaranteed.
Tuya is a member of the old “Zigbee Alliance” developing the Zigbee standard (Nedis has 5 IOT´s with Zigbee and many more with WiFi), this Alliance is now transformed into the “Connectivity Standards Alliance“. This Alliance has hundreds of members (but Nedis is not one) an develops both Zigbee and Matter standards for product compatability between different vendors IoT-products.
Therefore the standards of Zigbee and Matter is not really a Nedis issue.
I have made contact with the Tuya organization now, to better understand this standard problem and possibly influence until the Matter-standard has impact. I have been met in a very positive way so far. It seems this is an issue the blog will come back to frequently.
I have written a request to Nedis on how they view its IOT-products, present and future, for the “Matter-standard”? The new standard for for IOT´s for Samsung, Apple, Google, Amazon among others, to mix hardware and still be on speaking terms?
Starting this evening – there is no access, at least for me and my account of the IOT´s via my Android-app?
Anybody else who has this problem?
Checking with my two other Android-devices with the Nedis-app installed to the same account. Tells me I am logged out. Logging in gives the errormessage “server busy”.
But I still get push-notices and alarms from the IOT´s set to send messages when triggered.
The problem is reported to Nedis-support.
*******Update*********
Following came from Nedis support just now:
Sales Support Center / Technical Support
Oct 4, 2021, 8:59 GMT+2 Thank you for your reply.
There was a large server issue last night Everything is back up and running since 03:00hr CET If you are having trouble connecting try restarting the app and your devices.
I have had problems now and then with the two cameras I have of this model. First they worked fine for over a year (except that they did NOT accept any extra memory cards), then after a firmware update “to correct problems with the battery” some time ago, they worked fine until batterylevel came down to under 80%. Then they hanged and would not take resets or anything else. Just not contactable through the app anymore.
Only way I found around it was to let them be until the battery was drained to 0%, then they turned off by them selves and could be reinstalled after charging again.
Now I decided to make a report to Nedis-support, they imm. recognized it as a battery problem and helped me to make a reclamation to my swedish vendor.
I am just curios on how a battery could go from excellent new condition to worn out in about 4 charges from 30 to 100%?? And why they both showed this problem soon after the firmware update?
All said, I was happy about how Nedis-support helped me to reclaim. Thank You!
If I get new ones (new model) or a repayment is not clear yet, that seems to be up to my vendor. We will see.
Any body else that has the same problem with this camera?
Just got the WIFICI11CWT camera for 20€ at an offer, its full HD 1920×1080, has night vision, SDHC-memcardslot, and possible push alarms for sound and movement, two way sound, an included netadapter AND a temp and humidity sensor! At THAT price its a bargain! I have NO idea how its possible to produce, sell and distriubute such a product at that price!
I didn´t realise that the sensor was not built in and had to be inserted as a 2 cm extension at the end of the “cable” wich is both a possible support and the USB-connection. The cable is “bendable” to the shape You like, from straight (with an included wall mounting clip), to being a stand as shown in the pic below.
Nedis support helped me understand that the sensor was not built in and had to be inserted as an extra (but was included in the pack).
The only drawback I can find, is that the angle of vision is only 110 degrees. But at this price it was a bargain. I will use it extensively. Please feel free to write about how YOU use it!
